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dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new@yahoogroups.com, Wakanska
<wakanska2003@...> wrote:
Oh, my GOD!!! Is that what Winograd says? So, SHE is the voice behind
this insanity?
Well, trying to tell legislators anything having to do with the US
Constitution and civil liberties is like trying to teach a pig to
sing.. It doesn't work, and it only annoys the pig!
Legislators and politicians only care which way the political winds
blow, and how much lobbyists' money they can put in their pocket.
What did I just say? Something about pigs? Hmmmmm......
Well, I am very well familiar with the Civil Rights Act of 1871. We
have a stubborn little black woman to thank for that.. she and her
dead husband, who was lynched by the local KKK, who actually turned
out to be the local sheriff and his boys. She tried to sue for lost
income / support in local courts and was turned down, of course! So,
she took it to the US Court system, arguing that there was a conflict
of interest in the local and state courts. For this, we can be
eternally grateful.
In California, the public is specifically denied the right to sue any
public employee for anything done in the performance of their
duties, "even if it is malicious".. You heard me right.. That is the
exact wording of the law! So, that, and the public employees' unions
(political juggernauts in this state) guarantee that there will be no
justice for anyone wronged by a person acting under color of
authority. Not surprisingly, the arrogance, greed, corruption and
abuses have mounted up to the heavens, and the stench thereof is
exceeding great!
Thank you, Gov. Jerry Brown, for allowing formerly honest and humble
civil servants to organize into labor unions. Now, those labor unions
have taken over the state. I grew up here, and I have spent most of
my life here. I know what it was like, and believe me.. California
has been all but ruined.. NOT by "illegal immigrants", but by a
social welfare system run amok, teachers who produce dullards and
miscreants, and a law enforcement system and prison guards unions
which only exist to grow fat and rich on their own schemes and
corruption.
This is what I have been talking about for YEARS, and no one wants to
listen. I might as well be barking at the moon!
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Thomas Kirby <slowswimmer1@...> wrote:
From: Thomas Kirby <slowswimmer1@...>
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new Fw: [AKC-legislative-
liaisons] BAD NEWS FOR...
To: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 3:59 AM
We need to be able to answer the question. How can the
courts and
legislatures allow this? Support of so-called anti-cruelty
legislation
seems to be automatic and support of the U.S. Constitution and human
rights seems to be nil. Every wrong-headed notion that says we
shouldn't have our rights seems to be good enough for some of our
legislators.
There already is a constitution that may not be repealed by local
law. There is already a Civil Rights Act of 1871 that allows an
individual to sue a law enforcement officer for compensation even
when local law said that the LEO was allowed to violate a civil
right. We would not have to put even one animal rights activist in
jail, as much as I would personally love to see them in jail, to get
our rights back. We need to tell each legislator exactly what is
wrong with what the SPCAs and humane societies are doing and demand
that they vote against them. We need to campaign against Petsmart,
which actively supports animal rights, and for Petland which has
taken a public stand against the HSUS. Also, buy something at stores
that are being picketed by AR and tell people why.
And don't let Nathan Winograd tell us what to do, either. Rescue
dogs should not be used, as he has proposed, to push out dogs from
commercial
breeders. I have become a firm believer in the idea that
commercially bred animals can be just as good as any other animal
except maybe those bred in the backyard of a loving family.
--- On Thu, 12/18/08, TaneyCoChCrested@ aol.com <TaneyCoChCrested@
aol.com> wrote:
The BEST way to stop the lunacy going on with AR is to create
stronger laws against terrorism. Laws that will make them think twice
before they decide to bomb a research facility. Why is Coronado out of
jail right now? Do we really allow felons to mingle with other
felons? They destroyed years and years of valuable research, and they
get a slap on the wrist? They get the best lawyers paid for by other
AR people (using tax exempt donations)? yet when an old grandmother
who
is breeding animals to suppliment her income, there is NO defense for
her. In fact she get's bullied into signing over the animals by AR
groups thru threats of large feed bills, long jail times. How is this
being allowed???? Where are her rights being protected??? ?
The fact is the AR groups have had years to get it together, and
are very effective at lying to the public to make millions of dollars
(off the backs of animals haha. but it is OK for them), where animal
lovers are slinging mud at one another, and not paying attention to
what is going on. AR marches on against pet ownership, and get richer
to beat pet owners and potential owners down thru legislation they
are getting passed.
Until we truly get it together, the current trend against us will
continue!!! Until we find lawyers who are willing to work hard to
help
the breeder's who are attacked by AR groups AR will have continued
success's in the courts. WE need legal wins in the courthouse to set
a
different standard for pet lovers. Pet lover's! that means single
pet
owners, up to the best animal breeders we have in North America. We
need to
protect the rights of all animal lovers. HSUS and PETA CEO's the 2
leading AR groups who are Pacelle , and Newkirk do NOT EVEN OWN
PETS!! How is it they are so instrumental in getting PET laws
passed??
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